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Forging press [Jul. 13th, 2011|02:34 pm]
Doug Ayen
Well, it's about time to come to a decision about the forging press.



I really, really one one of Bowie's (Ron Claiborne's) presses. Price has gone up, they're $4,800 now, but they're worth it if you're a professional knifemaker. He's currently backlogged until next February, so it would be over a half-year wait. http://www.hightemptools.com/hydraulicpress.html

OTOH, I could pay $2,800 with a credit card now and get in about a week a perfectly serviceable 24 ton press from Uncle Al or a similar supplier. http://www.riversidemachine.net/item16342.ctlg It would be noisier, not as well built, lack pinstriping, and not come with all the dies that Bowie's does.

I know what I want to do, but what do you think? Instant gratification or an overbuilt masterpiece far in excess of my needs?

Decisions, decisions.
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[User Picture]From: perspicuity
2011-07-13 07:30 pm (UTC)
buy now, deposit on other, sell later, buy buy buy?

what's the market like for used Uncle presses?

maybe you'll REALLY like the Uncle press and make it your own...

then again, six months isn't THAT long...

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[User Picture]From: blackanvil
2011-07-13 07:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah, looks like resale on a used Uncle Al machine is about $1500. If I was a commercial operation, I'd probably get both and sell the lesser, but as a hobbyist, sigh, nope. At least by then some of the stuff in the Arisia Art SHow may have sold, replenishing the tool budget.
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[User Picture]From: perspicuity
2011-07-13 08:03 pm (UTC)
well, that's the thing too - how much stuff can you make now and sell?

esp: can you make enough METAL to then send to other people for $$$$?

can you lease time on the machine?

what other ways can you exploit the thing?

what would it take to either be commercial, or attract some pick-up work from a commercial entity? "we need a guy who can hammer stuff for us"

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[User Picture]From: blackanvil
2011-07-13 08:47 pm (UTC)
In my case, time is the critical factor, and I just don't have time to have a 2nd job. THe point of this purchase, really, is to act as a force multiplier to reduce the amount of time it takes for me to do certain things -- reduce large-diameter stock to the sizes I want, pattern welding, drawing out long blades. All are things that take a lot of time, and that can be done dramatically faster using a forging press or similar.
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[User Picture]From: perspicuity
2011-07-13 08:48 pm (UTC)
looks like a buy now thing :)

you can buy the other thing later.

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[User Picture]From: mneme
2011-07-13 10:56 pm (UTC)
You know damned well which one you want. Go for it.
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